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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDOPxqbm7Sg&feature=share
Junjie Huang - Interesting bit: he admitted that he was hiding his lineage because of a lawsuit. Odds are his teacher disowned him. Two ways of looking at this:
1) This is usually red-flag, when someone doesn't want to have others verify his learning under a teacher. Some mysterious Chinese who fled from China to Indonesia and finally went to Amercia (or something like that) sounds rather Dux-ish to me.
2) That he admitted that it was because of a lawsuit, however, which doesn't make him look good (unlike Dux, for whom everything bad is a conspiracy to hide his awesomeness), suggests that he might be honest about other stuff.
What say you?
P.S. his actual kung-fu itself doesn't impress me, but that could be because his teachers taught him wrong as a joke
Patrick F Ferrari - He doesn’t have any real kung fu lineage. This is his art and teacher. There are extensive write ups on it on Bullshido.
Tory Ellarson - To put this in perspective Jake Mace started out in Shaolin Do.
Shaolin do is fake martial art started by a guy from Indonesia who came to the US to get an engineering degree.
To make some extra money in college in I think Kentucky or Tennessee he started offering martial arts classes to other local students while claiming he the successor of the great grandmaster of the Shaolin temple and that he had mastered over 1000 forms.
What he actually taught was a combination of what he had learned from a few years of Taekwondo classes in high school and stuff he took from Hong Kong kungfu movies.
He also took a picture he found in a book in the local library of a well known early 20th century Chinese circus freak who had Hypertrichosis.
Since most people who start martial arts are just idiots looking for fantasy role playing, this worked out great and he decided to turn it into a full time thing and start franchising out schools.
Then he started getting flak about not knowing any kungfu and just teaching ridiculous bullshit. So he started buying kungfu form videos and copying them. Never having learned any traditional martial arts the results were predictably ridiculous. Also all the Shaolin forms videos and most other early Chinese forms videos were all heavily marked for that exact reason (ie the forms on them were changed so practitioners of those styles would instantly know the person had learned the form from a video).
He would occasionally still make up new forms although as he got older and his school increasingly cult like he ended up just phoning it in and each new form would just be him flailing randomly with the excuse that it was that way because it was a super ultra advanced form.
So Jake starts studying with the two biggest martial school franchise owners under this guy.
It turns out that this couple who owns these cult franchises all across the western US has been sexually harassing and molesting students for quite a while including Jacob Ryder's (now Jake Mace) girlfriend.
So it all gets turned into a big lawsuit scandal thing.
By that time Jake is running his own franchise under this couple (it's also set up as a pyramid scheme sort of thing.) goes to the Indonesian cult leader dude and asks him if he can just pay him directly for the franchise because the dude's main student's molested his girlfriend.
So the guy says yeah.
Eventually Jake ditches the cult name and brand but keeps teaching their fake martial arts stuff because it's the only thing he's ever learned.
So the cult leader takes him to court to sue him for teaching his own copyrighted material.
But you can only have exclusive rights to things like dances or Kata if they are your own invention.
You can't have rights to any traditional forms invented in past generations even if you are the legit inheritor of the system, much less if you just copied them off from videos.
So the guy eventually admits that he completely made up the core forms of the system.
They end up steeling with Jake agreeing not to use or mention his name or teach his stuff.
At this point Jake goes on his newly created Youtube channel and makes a video about how he wants to know if people think it's okay to keep teaching martial arts if you have just found out that some guy with no experience just made them up out of the blue and lied about being a Shaolin master.
He seemed to kind of hesitating about what to do and asked if he should take a few years to study a traditional martial art or if it was alright if he just kept teaching because even if the guy made it all up and had no experience he thought the training he got was probably pretty okay.
Then a month later he starts putting out crap loads of videos of himself teaching "traditional Kungfu".
